My family history data bases have recently been updated to include new or updated information as of December 1, 2007. You can see the “Detling” family at Ancestry.com, view the data at World Connect at rootsweb.com (look for “Detling” or any other surname we have in common to find the file), or at my own site: http://www.greencity.org/TNG/. The TNG site is also part of a new TNG web ring, and the date base is included in a GENDEX index at http://tngnetwork.lythgoes.net/.